Some Commonly Asked Questions
Yes. We draft QDROs for any state across the nation* and our office has experience filing out-of-state divorce documents with an Illinois court so you can enter your QILDRO or QCO in Illinois as required for processing. This is also sometimes called a “foreign judgment”.
Thank you for choosing the Law Offices of Anne Schmidt, LLC, to assist you with the drafting of your Domestic Relations Order(s). Most likely at this point, your divorce is either finalized or nearing completion, and you are exhausted emotionally and ﬁnancially. Our goal is to make this part of the process as painless and transparent as possible for you and to be here every step of the way for any questions that you might have. The following are probably just a few of the questions you would like answered:
What is a QDRO?
A QDRO is a Court Order required by both the IRS and the Department of Labor in order to assign retirement money (i.e.: Pensions, 401(k) Plans, Cash Balance Plans, ESOPs) to a former spouse. Normally, you can’t touch your employer sponsored retirement without jumping through lots of hoops and hurdles, and even then, there can be massive penalties attached to doing so. However, divorce is an exception to this rule, allowing you to assign this money without certain tax ramifications through the entry of a QDRO. Much of this is controlled by a Statute called The Employee Retirement Income Security Act of 1974 (“ERISA”) that I just happen to have a Master’s degree in.
What is a QILDRO?
A QILDRO is a court order similar to the aforementioned QDRO, but for a Plan administered by the state of Illinois. Unlike Federal law, which controls private employer plans, state plans such as Teacher’s Pensions, Firefighters, Police… are controlled by Illinois Pension Law.
Do I need a QDRO to divide an IRA?
No. Brokerage Accounts and IRAs are not qualified plans and do not require a QDRO to effectuate a division or distribution of assets due to divorce. Occasionally, these accounts will require a form or a Letter of Direction depending on the details the administrator requires and how your MSA is drafted. Forms can often be found on the administrator’s website. Alternatively, reach out to your financial or investment advisor where your account is held and they will provide you with their next steps.
If you or your financial advisor require assistance, we are happy to consult at our hourly rate. Some IRA plans require a court-certified Letter of Direction. When that is the case, I can prepare that Letter as required for you, as well.
How much does it cost?
Our firm charges $850.00 to $1000.00 to draft each Order, with a discount applied to multiple orders. Please reach out to us for our current pricing. Although this fee does not include us entering the Order into court for you, it does cover everything necessary to prepare the QDRO for entry into court, such as reviewing the plan documents and statements, communicating with the retirement plan administrator to make sure everything is approved and done properly, and drafting the Order. In addition, if for some reason we need to make edits, these costs are included in our flat fee. Typically, your divorce attorney will enter the Order for you in court and obtain the certified copy, which is required to be sent to the plan administrator. If you need us to enter it, or you want us to find someone to enter it for you, we can take a modest retainer to do so or advise on counsel that can enter it for you.
How fast does all of this happen?
We are pretty fast, but sometimes we have to wait for plan administrators to approve things and that can take some time. Once the plan administrator receives the order which has been entered by the court, they are allowed a reasonable period of time to tell you whether it is “qualified” or not – meaning it has passed muster and the money will be segregated from your spouse’s plan and assigned to you. At that point, the plan administrator will send you a letter saying everything is approved along with distribution forms asking you what you want to do with your money.
What if my QDRO is rejected or not preapproved?
Sometimes we receive a letter asking us to make changes before the plan will accept the Order and assign the requisite monies. This is quite normal in the process and nothing to be alarmed about, any changes that we need to make to the Order to get it approved by the plan are included in your flat fee. We have a very strong knowledge of which plans require preapproval or may require tweaking of our Orders and will advise you accordingly during the process. The most important thing is to not be alarmed if you receive a letter from the plan saying changes are required, we are on it and will help implement those changes to make sure your Order is approved and the money is assigned properly.
What’s a ‘participant’ and what is an ‘alternate payee’?
The participant is the member of the plan and the alternate payee is the person receiving the money from the member’s plan in the marital settlement agreement – for example, John Smith is a participant in the ABC 401(k) plan and Sally Smith, his ex-wife, is the alternate payee. The plan will require up-to-date personal information for both the participant and alternate payee to approve the assignment. We will send you a secure link or an addendum form asking you for all of this info. If you are uncomfortable providing this information electronically, please call us and we will happily take it over the phone.
What do I do with my money?
We are not financial advisors, so we cannot advise you the best way to invest or spend your money. What we can tell you is if you take a distribution (on a plan that allows a cash distribution like a 401(k) you will pay taxes on the distribution, and if you roll over into an IRA you will defer your taxes. Regardless, as mentioned earlier you avoid the 10% tax penalty through this nifty QDRO. If you need a referral to a Financial Advisor, please ask and we will be happy to provide a referral.
How much do you charge outside of the ﬂat fee?
If you need work done above and beyond the flat fee, Anne’s rates are $395.00 an hour. Because she has a Masters in Benefits, she often helps people figure out their health care issues in divorce i.e.: COBRA vs. Illinois Spousal Continuation Coverage and Qualified Medical Support Orders (QMSCO), which you will need in order to have access to your kids’ medical plans if they are covered under your former spouse’s plan. Anne also practices mediation and collaborative law, basically, any family law that is not litigated. Please visit our website is anneschmidtlaw.com for a better understanding of our practice areas.
*outside of the state of Illinois, our drafting is considered consulting, not legal representation.
How do I get in touch with you?
If you have more questions or need the help of an attorney with establishing a QDRO or QILDRO, call 847-926-7679 or fill out our contact form.